Friday, April 18, 2003

Following is a transcript from the O'Reilly Factor (Fox News) that was reprinted this month in Harpers. The interviewee, Jeremy Glick, reported that after the interview O'Reilly said to him, "Get out of my studio before I tear you to fucking pieces."

Bill O'Reilly: In the "Personal Stories" segment tonight, we were surprised to find out that an American who lost his father in the World Trade Center attack had signed an antiwar advertisement that accused the U.S.A. itself of terrorism. The offending passage read, "We too watched with shock the horrific events of September 11...we too mourned the thousands of innocent dead and shook our heads at the terrible scenes of carnage--even as we recalled similar scenes in Baghdad, Panama City, and, a generation ago, in Vietnam." With us now is Jeremy Glick, whose father, Barry, was a Port Authority worker at the Trade Center. Mr. Glick is a co-author of the book Another World is Possible.

I’m surprised you signed this. You were the only one of all the families who signed.

Jeremy Glick: Well actually, that's not true.
BO: Who signed the advertisement?
JG: Peaceful Tomorrow, which represents 9/11 families, was also involved.
BO: Hold it, hold it, hold it, Jeremy. You’re the only one who signed this advertisement.
JG: As an individual.
BO: Yes, a--with your name. You were the only one. I was surprised, and the reason I was surprised is that this ad equates the United States with the terrorists. And I was offended by that.
JG: I'm actually shocked that you’re surprised. Our current president inherited a political legacy from his father that's responsible for training militarily, and economically, and situating geopolitically the parties involved in the murder of my father and countless thousands of others. So I don't see why it's surprising--
BO: All right. Now let me stop you here. So--
JG: --that I would come back and want to support--
BO: It is surprising, and I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why it's surprising.
JG: --escalating--
BO: You are mouthing a far-left position that is a marginal position in this society, which you're entitled to.
JG: It's marginal--right.
BO: You're entitled to it, all right, but you're--you see, even--I'm sure your beliefs are sincere, but what upsets me is I don't think your father would be approving of this.
JG: Well, actually, my father thought that Bush's presidency was illegitimate.
BO: Maybe he did, but--
JG: I also didn't think that Bush--
BO: --I don't think he’d be equating this country as a terrorist nation, as you are.
JG: Well, I wasn't saying that it was necessarily like that.
BO: Yes, you are. You signed--
JG: What I'm saying is--
BO: --this, and that absolutely said that.
JG: --is that six months before the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan, starting in the Carter Administration and continuing and escalating while Bush's father was head of the CIA, we recruited a hundred thousand radical mujahedeen to combat a democratic government in Afghanistan, the Turaki government.
BO: All right. I don't want to--
JG: Maybe--
BO: I don't want to debate world politics with you.
JG: Well, why not? This is about world politics.
BO: Because number one, I don't really care what you think.
JG: Well, okay.
BO: You're--I want to--
JG: But you do care because you--
BO: No, no. Look--
JG: The reason why you care is because you evoke 9/11--
BO: Here's why I care.
JG: --to rationalize--
BO: Here's why I care--
JG: Let me finish. You evoke 9/11 to rationalize everything from domestic plunder to imperialistic aggression worldwide.
BO: Okay. That's a bunch--
JG: You evoke sympathy with the 9/11 famlies.
BO: That's a bunch of crap. I've done more for the 9/11 families by their own admission--I've done more for them than you will ever hope to do.
JG: Okay.
BO: So you keep your mouth shut when you sit here exploiting those people.
JG: Well, you're not representing me.
BO: And I'd never represent you. You know why?
JG: Why?
BO: Because you have a warped view of this world and a warped view of this country.
JG: Okay.
BO: Here's the record. You didn't support the action against Afghanistan to remove the Taliban. You were against it. Okay?
JG: Why would I want to brutalize and further punish the people in Afghanistan?
BO: Who killed your father!
JG: The people in Afghanistan--
BO: Who killed your father.
JG: --did not kill my father.
BO: Sure they did. The Al Quaeda people were trained there.
JG: The Al Qaeda people? What about the Afghan people?
BO: See, I'm more angry about it than you are!
JG: So what about George Bush--
BO: What about George Bush? He had nothing to do with it.
JG: --Senior, as director of the CIA.
BO: He had nothing to do with it.
JG: So the people that trained a hundred thousand mujahedeen who were--
BO: Man, I hope your mom isn't watching this.
JG: Well, I hope she is.
BO: I hope your mother is not watching this because you-- That's it. I'm not going to say anymore.
JG: Okay.
BO: In respect for your father--
JG: On September 14, do you want to know what I'm doing?
BO: Shut up. Shut up.
JG: Oh, please don't tell me to shut up.
BO: As respect--as respect--in respect for your father, who was a Port authority worker, a fine American, who got killed unnecessarily by barbarians--
JG: By radical extremists who were trained by this government--
BO: Out of respect for him--
JG: --not the people of America.
BO: --I'm not going to--
JG: --the people of the ruling class, the small minority.
BO: Cut his mike. I’m not going to dress you down anymore, out of respect for your father.
JG: That means we’re done?
BO: We’re done.


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